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Re: Beta 5 Download - RobSeegel - 07-30-2011
5261766A4E616A77616A040 wrote: [quote author=4D707D4C7A7A787A731F0 link=1311837669/14#14 date=1311863164]I thought the main use was that while Jack is pulling the lever he doesn't fall. So you could put a lever above a falling platform. By the time the animation was finished, the platform would be gone, but Jack could still get in one last jump - from the lever.
You could also have strange scenarios where the lever could be mid-air and a moving platform could briefly pass it allowing Jack, if he's quick, to pull the lever, and still get in a jump because of the quirk - hopefully to safety.
Who reported this one, Vern? This was something I had initially used in MM II, then pulled out.I wouldn't be surprised if one or two custom mansions used this quirk.Update: Even if they do, it doesn't matter since this only applies to built-in mansions.
Hmm, okay I guess you are right -- these two scenarios would be affected a well. Not just gold/silver blocks.
Why? Because the game does NOT teach players how to do this, so no one should ever be expected to do it. No built-in mansions should ever require it, or have an advantage to doing it. Therefore, it should not be allowed.
This wasn't something I really expected an answer to, Vern. Also, it wasn't something I really cared for in built-ins. I was just trying to explain what I thought some exploits of the quirk were to Brell is all.
I was just mildly curious if someone reminded you of this, or if you remembered it from MM2, when I initially tried to use it in DDD Hard. It didn't bother me taking it out, and wouldn't have been used at all had I known not to use it. I'd just assumed incorrectly that because it was used so commonly in custom mansions then it would be OK.
Guess not!
Re: Beta 5 Download - RobSeegel - 07-30-2011
1A293E220629223F29224C0 wrote:
Rob, are you sure this is related to the Options dialog? There is a known bug where if you minimize the game, and click on the Midnight Mansion app icon in the dock to bring it back, nothing will happen. You have to instead click on the icon of the minimized game window (far-right of the dock) to bring it back. Does this not work for you in some situation? Otherwise, it's a known issue.
Hmm... my mistake, then. Sorry about that - probably a known issue. For some reason, I thought there was something different about the case I was trying.
Re: Beta 5 Download - brell - 07-30-2011
487578497F7F7D7F761A0 wrote:
This wasn't something I really expected an answer to, Vern. Also, it wasn't something I really cared for in built-ins. I was just trying to explain what I thought some exploits of the quirk were to Brell is all.
Why do you mention me alone in this matter? This
quirkas you call it is used in many custom mansions by many builders. To me and many more players and builders it is completely natural: Jack pulls a lever and immediately has to jump to avoid a deadly fall or a monster.
Re: Beta 5 Download - RobSeegel - 07-30-2011
6B7B6C6565090 wrote:Umm... I thought it was clear: I called you out because you posted the question in this topic:
Why do you mention me alone in this matter? Thisquirkas you call it is used in many custom mansions by many builders. To me and many more players and builders it is completely natural: Jack pulls a lever and immediately has to jump to avoid a deadly fall or a monster.
What is lever jump?I'd been trying to answer that question. It had nothing to do with all the custom mansions that use this
unintended feature(if you prefer). I know some of your mansions use this, but so do *lots* of custom mansions. I wasn't singling you out because of that.
Re: Beta 5 Download - brell - 07-30-2011
OK, sorry, I misunderstood.
Re: Beta 5 Download - SoItBegins - 08-04-2011
I had an idea for how to handle the saves when smooth saving is implemented. Instead of having a confirmation box when Jack jumps on a Save pedestal, have it so that the game will do nothing unless the player has Jack jump on a save pedestal and then presses Enter to signal they want to save here.
Re: Beta 5 Download - triforceguy1 - 08-07-2011
5F6345784E696B65627F0C0 wrote: I had an idea for how to handle the saves when smooth saving is implemented. Instead of having a confirmation box when Jack jumps on a Save pedestal, have it so that the game will do nothing unless the player has Jack jump on a save pedestal and then presses Enter to signal they want to save here.
I quite like that idea
Anyway, sorry for being away for a while, been busy with writing my CV and being ill.
Cheers
Leon