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Message started by Wingy on 09.01.2007 at 01:25:15

Title: SC1-2 > StarCraft
Post by Wingy on 09.01.2007 at 01:25:15
This mansion is called StarCraft. It's going to have to have custom art, which I'm working on. Here's a screenshot of a room. Bty, the mansion's name is StarCraft because most of my art is related to the awesome masterpeice by Blizzard Entertainment... StarCraft :: Broodwar.

Here's the screenshot:



As you can see, the money is abit different, and Jack is stuck on a space platform! In the game StarCraft, you need Minerals, (Blue Crystal) and Vesvain Gas. (Gas Containers) Also, there's no life up there but Jack. There's just robots in the way!

I'll finish it... in awhile.

;)

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Freddy on 09.01.2007 at 01:30:36
Stunning !
Looking forward. But take it easy, Wingy. No need to run.

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by aquaMat on 09.01.2007 at 04:49:33
That looks very promising, Wingy !!

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Semi-Native on 09.01.2007 at 07:39:16
Beautiful, Wingy! Hurry!
8-)

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Wingy on 09.01.2007 at 08:34:21
Btw... Have anyone ever played StarCraft? There's a free demo at this address:
http://www.blizzard.com/starcraft/macscdemo.shtml
Most of the bad guys are not related to StarCraft,  :-/ but just robots. You need classic to play the demo. The full version you can get a installer to make is OS X.  8-)
I've been drawing new bad guys and tile sets for like... 5 hours?   ;)

@Vern: You said you couldn't edit sprites. Well uh... how come I can?

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by frost on 09.01.2007 at 09:20:35
Looks pretty good, Wingy.

How did you manage to make another background than the ones included in the game?
I've been trying this for quite some time, without any sucess so far  :-/

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by aquaMat on 09.01.2007 at 18:57:27

Anthony wrote on 09.01.2007 at 08:34:21:
I've been drawing new bad guys and tile sets for like... 5 hours? ;)

@Vern: You said you couldn't edit sprites. Well uh... how come I can?


Wingy, as I said before.... of course it is possible to edit sprites (in the Midnight Mansion Sprites resource map), it's just not possible to do it in the resource file of your mansion (as it is with tiles).

I'm currenty doing custom graphic sprites myself...and it's a lot of fun !!

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Wingy on 09.01.2007 at 20:40:45

frost wrote on 09.01.2007 at 09:20:35:
Looks pretty good, Wingy.

How did you manage to make another background than the ones included in the game?
I've been trying this for quite some time, without any sucess so far :-/


Its easy to get another background, Frost! You simply get the image you want, like I went to StarCraft's Wallpaper gallery and got that one. If the image is too small, it automaticly makes it a pattern. Once you have your image, you rename it, background8.jpg (Rename the extention) and put it into: /midnight mansion (folder)/game data/screens/
Then when you select it in the editor, you can select another backround! You can keep renaming differnent images. (e.g. background9.jpg, background10.jpg) Remember, the image has to be .jpg or .png.  ;)

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Freddy on 09.01.2007 at 20:58:33
Backgrounds and music have to be handled in a similar way. The mansion will need an accompanying read-me-first textfile with instructions for adding the backgrounds and/or the music at the right place(s). And you have to take care about RIGHTS. Don't use anything that result in bills send to Vern or whoever. Including yourself! ;)

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Wingy on 09.01.2007 at 21:17:57
I'm still confused with the music thingy... I renamed my own music, put it in the right place, told the editor to play it  in a sertain room, and I got a error window pop up when I played the mansion!  :'( :-? :-/

Title: Re: StarCraft ::: Jack with forcefeild!
Post by Wingy on 09.01.2007 at 22:41:42
I wonder... How on earth will Jack breath up there? I know! With a force-feild that prevents air from escaping and so Jack doesn't get torn apart in space!  ::) So basicly it's just Jack with a forcefeild on.
Wait until this mansion... er... space station is complete to find out!

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by VernJensen on 12.01.2007 at 03:25:35

Anthony wrote on 09.01.2007 at 21:17:57:
I'm still confused with the music thingy... I renamed my own music, put it in the right place, told the editor to play it in a sertain room, and I got a error window pop up when I played the mansion! :'( :-? :-/


What did you name your music? What index did you enter in the editor? And is it an MP3?

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Wingy on 12.01.2007 at 22:09:29
OOOooooohhhhh! MP3! Ok I got it.

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Freddy on 12.01.2007 at 22:47:22
Dog: "Wav! Wav! Wav!"  ::) ;)

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Wingy on 21.01.2007 at 08:17:22

aquaMat wrote on 09.01.2007 at 18:57:27:
Wingy, as I said before.... of course it is possible to edit sprites (in the Midnight Mansion Sprites resource map), it's just not possible to do it in the resource file of your mansion (as it is with tiles).

I'm currenty doing custom graphic sprites myself...and it's a lot of fun !!


You said that you can edit the tiles in the resource file... I don't quite understand.  :-?

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by aquaMat on 21.01.2007 at 19:07:03

Anthony wrote on 21.01.2007 at 08:17:22:
You said that you can edit the tiles in the resource file... I don't quite understand. :-?


Maybe I didn't express myself clearly enough - I'll try again:

Since update 1.0.7. it is possible to put  custom graphics of TILES (editor left) within the resource file of your mansion (= "StarCraft" in your case). You do not need to put the custom tiles into the "Midnight Mansion Sprites" resource file anymore (as it used to be in earlier versions).

But if you want to create custom SPRITES (editor right), like change the look of monsters or switches etc., you still have to do that in the "Midnight Mansion Sprites" file, unfortunately.... which you then have to give to the players along with your mansion.

That was what I meant when I said "edit in the resource file".... of course the real "editing" (=customizing the graphics) has to be done in PhotoShop or something like that.


Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Wingy on 25.01.2007 at 08:40:48
Ok thanks for clearing that confusion up with me. Now about StarCraft...

I'm going to make sorta "episodes" of this mansion. Each time you finish you'll be teleported away. Not really, but you'll have to continue on with the story in the next "episode." It's going to be chopped up and going to be BIG. (I'm guessing, abit bigger then Volcanis) Not as big as MMaM though...
Anyways, I'll keep you all updated when I finish the first "episode!" :D
Cheers,
Wingy ;D

P.S. I might finish the first "episode" this Weekend! :) You'll have all the costom Graphics and all this weekend!  :)

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Freddy on 25.01.2007 at 08:59:56
:) Looking forward to it, Wingy!
How about another screenshot. Need an appetizer!!

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by aquaMat on 25.01.2007 at 20:59:24
Yeah, looking forward to it, too !!!

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Wingy on 25.01.2007 at 21:12:00
Here's a screenshot of one room. You may have noticed that the bar above is different and Jack is different. And the keys, too!   :)

Also you may have noticed the "elizabeth" "head" is different. She's riding the most powerful human unit, the Battle Cruiser. The "auther" "head" is riding a wrath, which is not as big. The only bad guy I didn't change was the momma spider. Also, I deleted all blood and acid and the sounds for them. But you can still hear the heads dying as the ship burns went they hit a torch!
Picture_1.png (65 KB | )

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Freddy on 25.01.2007 at 21:17:49
HELP !

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Wingy on 25.01.2007 at 21:30:31

Freddy wrote on 25.01.2007 at 21:17:49:
HELP !


Why do you say that, Freddy? Did I do something wrong? :-? Or is jack in trouble because he's about to be turned to stone?  :D

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Freddy on 25.01.2007 at 21:45:22
;D Looks very scary ... Mmmm ... Gonna like it!!

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Wingy on 25.01.2007 at 22:43:04
I'm going to call the first episode the "Towers of Space" :D I think... it will be out later today! ::)

EDIT: Oh... you say that picture of a Zerg dude... yeah... they're scary.  :o

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by aquaMat on 25.01.2007 at 22:58:35
@Wingy: What on earth is a Zerg dude ??? :)

It looks really great, my compliments, Wingy.

Too bad, I thought I'd be the first to have changed the look of Jack !!
Maybe I can still beat you to the release, as yours will be more impressive anyway.... you have even changed that bar / window frame...!! :)

Your skill frightens me... what will become of you, when you're 23, or 33 ?! A rocket scientist ??? :) :)

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Freddy on 25.01.2007 at 23:03:12
To make a few things clear for us.

1 Will StarCraft be build up like Volcanis? Will the second episode be added at the tail of episode 1? Etcetera.

2 When it will "be out", is it already beta-tested for release? Or does the tests start later today? If you are searching for beta-testers, just ask on these boards. (I found already one for the Catacoms Section 4. And that "one" is no less than the only Grandmaster of MMaM. Don't disturb her! ;))

3 A reminder. I suppose you want your new mansion, like all the others, listed. Then it is better that you don't attach it now to a post somewhere else on the boards (e.g. Free Up- & Downloading). On the long term that would be confusing.

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Wingy on 25.01.2007 at 23:06:12
Er umm... I dunno... But it naturally that people in my family are smart... I hope i am... My older bro, whos in his first year of univercity got 97% average in highschool. He spent most of his time in his room and talked to his friends. He developes games, like Vern! Not to sell, but just for fun. His latest game was "NOT ASTROIDS." Its a game about destroying asteroids and such. If you want to check it out, go to this address:

http://server1.yellowdns.com/~staron/NOT_ASTEROIDS/NOT%20ASTEROIDS.zip

Anyways back to StarCraft... If you've played the StarCraft Demo, you can see that the "Zerg dudes" are the bad aliens... If you look at the picture IN my screenshot, you can see a "Zerg dude."

And what Freddy Said...
I'm going to put it up on the Free up- & Downloading thing soon... and then everyone can play it and they can tell me bugs... Its got lots of custom graphics but only 10 rooms!!!

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by aquaMat on 26.01.2007 at 04:07:56

Anthony wrote on 25.01.2007 at 21:12:00:
Also, I deleted all blood and acid and the sounds for them. ...


Wingy, I read that you removed certain sounds for certain effects (like blood) in the game. I wonder how you do that, as I'm looking for a way to remove the sound of the torches burning, but NOT the torches (+ animation) themselves.

I need it for the Disotheque's illumination.

Do you (or ANYBODY ELSE) know how that could be done ??

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Wingy on 26.01.2007 at 05:13:56
It's simple, aquaMat! Open "sounds" in ResEdit and just press "delete" or "backspace" on the sound you don't want!  ;D

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by aquaMat on 26.01.2007 at 17:32:52
Oh well.... that sure is simple !!  :D

Of course I know how to erase a file on a Macintosh computer... ;D

But I had suspected that it could cause problems in the game, when I erase a certain sound, but CONTINUE to use the picture "attached" to that sound....(that was my question)...but apparently it won't. (??)


Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by aquaMat on 26.01.2007 at 18:38:56
I made a first playing-test of STAR CRAFT Episode 1:

First of all, congratulations, Wingy, to the great graphics.
I have not yet played with the MUSIC ON, so I will comment on the music later, if you want.  :)

I like the graphics, with only a few minor exceptions.... like -for example- the force-field, which is great, but has the downside that it somehow decreases the "three-dimensionality" of Jack (meaning, he looks a bit 'flat' sometimes). But that's just my personal view.
Also I think you should add an "introduction": for example, by the time I realised that those red/green boxes are LEVERS, I had missed (not pulled) the first one....
I love the way you made new keys, coins etc. Great!!

However, I found a Jack-stuck in room 15900: After coming down again from above, I took that moving platform to the lowest floor and died in the acid. By the time I died, however, I had activated the lower floor moving platforms, but was reborn on the ladder above. I could NOT get down again, as the higher platform was not moving and blocked the way down, and I had NO way to change that.

However, I was lucky: after I suspended the game, and then resumed it, luckily the higher platform was moved to the floor again, and I could get down with a squirrel jump to the secret caveat and then jump to the lowest floor from that.
But STILL: you should change that. Normally I would have had to abort the game there.

But I could finish, and ended with 10.000 crystals or whatever it is, and 3 secrets (100%) and several lives left.

But it's rather short,so maybe it'd be better to release the mansion as a whole after it's finished.

One other thing: Your read-me on how to replace what in the Game Data folder is NOT very clear. Although I did understand what you meant, I think it could be written a bit more precisely (e.g. the confusion when you use the terms Data Original and Original Data folder etc.)

However, a great beautiful mansion, that turns MM into something entirely different.

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Freddy on 26.01.2007 at 18:52:13

aquaMat wrote on 26.01.2007 at 18:38:56:
... One other thing: Your read-me on how to replace what in the Game Data folder is NOT very clear. Although I did understand what you meant, I think it could be written a bit more precisely (e.g. the confusion when you use the terms Data Original and Original Data folder etc.) ...

If I may add something to this remark about the read-me-first-file. It would be nice to end the text with telling how to put things back to "standard". You don't need to repeat all the steps again. But say "something" about "undo". After StarCraft we really need to be prepared for Arevn's Mansion, Palace of Gore, Catacombs and The Discotheque which are all coming very very soon. That last one with new file-move-instructions ...

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Wingy on 26.01.2007 at 21:31:31

aquaMat wrote on 26.01.2007 at 18:38:56:
I made a first playing-test of STAR CRAFT Episode 1:

First of all, congratulations, Wingy, to the great graphics.
I have not yet played with the MUSIC ON, so I will comment on the music later, if you want. :)


There's no music, aquaMat! Not even if you turn music ON! If you have any music that would fit this, PM me about it. Also, its called StarCraft. Not STAR CRAFT.  ;)


aquaMat wrote on 26.01.2007 at 18:38:56:
I like the graphics, with only a few minor exceptions.... like -for example- the force-field, which is great, but has the downside that it somehow decreases the "three-dimensionality" of Jack (meaning, he looks a bit 'flat' sometimes). But that's just my personal view.
Also I think you should add an "introduction": for example, by the time I realised that those red/green boxes are LEVERS, I had missed (not pulled) the first one....
I love the way you made new keys, coins etc. Great!!


Took me awhile to make the animation of Jack hitting the bottons of the green/red machine. And the new keys, coins ect. took awhile on each. (about 5 mins each)


aquaMat wrote on 26.01.2007 at 18:38:56:
However, I found a Jack-stuck in room 15900: After coming down again from above, I took that moving platform to the lowest floor and died in the acid. By the time I died, however, I had activated the lower floor moving platforms, but was reborn on the ladder above. I could NOT get down again, as the higher platform was not moving and blocked the way down, and I had NO way to change that.

However, I was lucky: after I suspended the game, and then resumed it, luckily the higher platform was moved to the floor again, and I could get down with a squirrel jump to the secret caveat and then jump to the lowest floor from that.
But STILL: you should change that. Normally I would have had to abort the game there.


Its completly possible to get down it without suspending! It's just hard. I think I should make it just one two-square elevator.


aquaMat wrote on 26.01.2007 at 18:38:56:
But I could finish, and ended with 10.000 crystals or whatever it is, and 3 secrets (100%) and several lives left.

But it's rather short,so maybe it'd be better to release the mansion as a whole after it's finished.

One other thing: Your read-me on how to replace what in the Game Data folder is NOT very clear. Although I did understand what you meant, I think it could be written a bit more precisely (e.g. the confusion when you use the terms Data Original and Original Data folder etc.)

However, a great beautiful mansion, that turns MM into something entirely different.


Ok aquaMat, if you think the read-me-first thing isn't that great, you can make your own and PM it to me! (If you want to) Becuase I can't think of anything better! Oh and include how to get rid of it too.

Thanks for the comments!
Cheers,
Wingy 8-)

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Wingy on 26.01.2007 at 23:07:02
Annnddd.... updated. 8-) Re-download episode one from the StarCraft topic in Free up- downloading. I replaced the old starcraft.zip file with the new one on my server. It seems everyone in Europe gets it super-fast! :o

And about episode 2. I don't really need to make another topic, because this is the Topic of all of StarCraft episodes. I plan on calling it: StarCraft Ep. 2: SS Alfa. (Space station alfa) :D It should be done soon! Im looking about twice the size of the last one... 20 rooms!  :)

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by aquaMat on 27.01.2007 at 00:52:28

Anthony wrote on 26.01.2007 at 21:31:31:
Its completly possible to get down it without suspending! It's just hard. I think I should make it just one two-square elevator.


Mmh.... How can it be possible to get down after I've been reborn on the ladder, if the "elevator" is not active and blocking the way down ??? There was no hidden lever somewhere in the top area that switched the "elevator" back on, wasn't there ??  :-/


Anthony wrote on 26.01.2007 at 21:31:31:
Ok aquaMat, if you think the read-me-first thing isn't that great, you can make your own and PM it to me! (If you want to) Becuase I can't think of anything better! Oh and include how to get rid of it too.


Well...... actually I'm quite busy .... but I'll see if I can find the time to change your description into something a bit clearer.

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by aquaMat on 27.01.2007 at 01:52:38
Wingy, I made a new version of the StarCraft read-me-first, which I attach to this text, so that everybody who has already downloaded your game and the old ReadMe can download the new ReadMe here.


http://www.actionsoft.com/forums/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?action=downloadfile;file=StarCraft_ReadMe_aquaMat.zip (1 KB | )

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Wingy on 27.01.2007 at 02:39:05

aquaMat wrote on 27.01.2007 at 00:52:28:
Mmh.... How can it be possible to get down after I've been reborn on the ladder, if the "elevator" is not active and blocking the way down ??? There was no hidden lever somewhere in the top area that switched the "elevator" back on, wasn't there ?? :-/


Ok enough with this! I'll just add another switch at the top and a smaller elevator! Its updated now. Oh yeah, I put your read-me-first file inside with the update.  ;)

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Wingy on 28.01.2007 at 06:33:11
Nearly done the second episode. It could be done later tonight or next morning! (Its 7:22 PM right now) Here's a picture of Jack seeing what would happen if he jumped off the station...  ;D


Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Lara on 04.02.2007 at 16:41:54
Hey, I'm really enjoying the the Starcraft mansions but I have one little complaint.

The different combination of backgrounds, colours and the forcefield around Jack tends to hurt my eyes when playing. I find it a little too much and so I request a normal Jack if possible. I understand in the mansion's story that Jack need the forcefield to breathe, but I think my eyes would enjoy playing the game more if there wasn't quite so much stuff going on visually.

Is it possible to just have a normal Jack for little old me?

Thank you!!!

xxx.

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Lara on 04.02.2007 at 18:53:56
I'm actually getting used to Jack now...  ::)

And! I completed in 11.33 with 100% of secrets and $10,000! Yay!!!

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Wingy on 04.02.2007 at 23:56:55
Congrats Lara, you beat umm... which episode? Anyways... I made a sprite set for just little'o'you with jack normal! (Please don't tear apart in space, Jack! That would be a most horrible death!) ;)
Cheers,
Wingy

P.S. Anyone on earth beat my 3rd episode with all 3 secrets and 10,000 score? :-?

Download the sprite set here:
http://server1.yellowdns.com/~staron/antsarts/mm.zip

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Lara on 05.02.2007 at 00:19:43
Awesome!!! Cheers!

And I was talking about EP1. I did EP2 with 100% and $10,000 too. :D. Currently getting angry at the horizontal zappers in EP3, i'm taking a break to release my 'anger' at the moment.

Wa-Hoo!!!

xxx.

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Wingy on 06.02.2007 at 00:40:03
@Lara: If you wanna release your anger, do it outside and not to your computer!  ;D

Anyways... Congrats, Lara, for beating both Ep. 1 and 2 with prefect score! How are you doing on the third episode?

I'm afraid I'm gonig to postbone Episode 4 due to... I forgot! Due to something... Well it won't be out for awhile. If anyone here gets Episode 3 done with perfect score and all secrets, they can be called the first person to have beaten it with perfect everything!  ;D

P.S. If you beat it, don't tell anyone about how you did it unless they are tearing their computer apart!  ;D

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Lara on 06.02.2007 at 01:22:05
I would NEVER harm my computer. It is a 15" MacBookPro and it is beautiful.

However, it does have a slight dent on the outside though. Woops!

::) ;D :)

xxx.

Title: Re: StarCraft
Post by Mikee on 25.03.2007 at 04:53:03
To me can someone again explain as I it to make can, which I get the Starcraft background, but the old still kept can do?

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