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Message started by brell on 12.02.2007 at 20:33:49

Title: Counting editor
Post by brell on 12.02.2007 at 20:33:49
Vern, is it possible to let the editor count things like rooms, secrets and gold for you?  And perhaps keys and doors by color?

Title: Re: Counting editor
Post by Freddy on 12.02.2007 at 23:45:52
IF possible, please!

Vern, you really should see my spreadsheat of Midnight Mazes & Monsters. You wouldn't believe your eyes. And I said it before. The most difficult part of the creation of MMaM was, at the end, checking and checking and checking over and over again, till I was really sure about the amount of $ 500.000.

And if I may remind you, the counting of the secrets was even in the included mansions a problem. There should still be at least one included mansion with a wrong number of secrets. Spiak found out that Knight Mansion Hard gives 108 % secrets ...

Title: Re: Counting editor
Post by joeb on 13.02.2007 at 00:37:41
I've sort of shied away from secrets in mansions because I always get the count wrong. I agree that a toll which counts certain items would help greatly!

Joe B

Title: Re: Counting editor
Post by joeb on 13.02.2007 at 00:38:13
DUH!!!!
TOOL not TOLL

jb

Title: Re: Counting editor
Post by VernJensen on 14.02.2007 at 15:34:02

joeb wrote on 13.02.2007 at 00:38:13:
DUH!!!!
TOOL not TOLL

jb


There's a Modify button so you can change your post if you mistype something. :-) Look at the upper-right of your message after you post it.

[Which Vern used just now because he mis-typed two things in his previous post of this message.]

Title: Re: Counting editor
Post by VernJensen on 14.02.2007 at 15:37:06

brell wrote on 12.02.2007 at 20:33:49:
Vern, is it possible to let the editor count things like rooms, secrets and gold for you?  And perhaps keys and doors by color?


Yes, I can see the value in counting secrets. Counting rooms (the total number?) would be very easy, but I don't see why you'd want to? I guess just to know how big your mansion is?

Why would you want to count doors and keys by color? Just to be sure there's an equal number of keys and doors of the same color?

Title: Re: Counting editor
Post by Freddy on 14.02.2007 at 15:43:28

VernJensen wrote on 14.02.2007 at 15:34:02:
... There's a Modify button so you can change your post if you mistype something. :-) Look at the upper-right of your message after you post it. ...

You are right, Vern. Especially in this case, since there was only 1 minute between both posts. But, I should have a look in the Admin Center, because I remember that the time to modify posts is limited. I need to check that.

Title: Re: Counting editor
Post by Freddy on 14.02.2007 at 16:19:16

VernJensen wrote on 14.02.2007 at 15:37:06:

brell wrote on 12.02.2007 at 20:33:49:
Vern, is it possible to let the editor count things like rooms, secrets and gold for you?  And perhaps keys and doors by color?


Yes, I can see the value in counting secrets. Counting rooms (the total number?) would be very easy, but I don't see why you'd want to? I guess just to know how big your mansion is?

Why would you want to count doors and keys by color? Just to be sure there's an equal number of keys and doors of the same color?

I will leave the answer about doors and keys to brell. But besides the secrets, the other priority is in my opinion: the amount of dollars! When building a mansion, the problem is that some prizes become invisible in the editor and/or in the game.

Title: Re: Counting editor
Post by brell on 14.02.2007 at 16:25:00

Freddy wrote on 14.02.2007 at 16:19:16:

VernJensen wrote on 14.02.2007 at 15:37:06:

brell wrote on 12.02.2007 at 20:33:49:
Vern, is it possible to let the editor count things like rooms, secrets and gold for you?  And perhaps keys and doors by color?


Yes, I can see the value in counting secrets. Counting rooms (the total number?) would be very easy, but I don't see why you'd want to? I guess just to know how big your mansion is?

Why would you want to count doors and keys by color? Just to be sure there's an equal number of keys and doors of the same color?

I will leave the answer about doors and keys to brell. But besides the secrets, the other priority is in my opinion: the amount of dollars! When building a mansion, the problem is that some prizes become invisible in the editor and/or in the game.


Vern's answer about keys and doors is the right one!

Title: Re: Counting editor
Post by VernJensen on 14.02.2007 at 16:32:11
Okay, done. It tells you the number of rooms, secrets, and total money you could collect from coins/money bags, but it doesn't tell you anything about keys/doors.

This is in the Special menu.

Title: Re: Counting editor
Post by Toybox on 14.02.2007 at 17:49:34
If you have several ways (in a non-totally visitable mansion) leading to one coloured door you may have more than one key for a given door. Also, you can have bi-coloured doors  ::)

Still, I wouldn't advocate the key-and-door counting.

Title: Re: Counting editor
Post by Freddy on 14.02.2007 at 19:01:38

VernJensen wrote on 14.02.2007 at 16:32:11:
Okay, done. It tells you the number of rooms, secrets, and total money you could collect from coins/money bags, but it doesn't tell you anything about keys/doors.

This is in the Special menu.

Great news! and euh ... maybe you test the secrets-counting on all included mansions. To be sure for once and for ever? And the money-counting to remove all trolls from the high scores lists?

Title: Re: Counting editor
Post by Semi-Native on 14.02.2007 at 19:24:23

VernJensen wrote on 14.02.2007 at 16:32:11:
Okay, done. It tells you the number of rooms, secrets, and total money you could collect from coins/money bags, but it doesn't tell you anything about keys/doors.

This is in the Special menu.


Thanks you, Vern, that's great news.
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Title: Re: Counting editor
Post by VernJensen on 15.02.2007 at 04:17:58

Freddy wrote on 14.02.2007 at 19:01:38:
Great news! and euh ... maybe you test the secrets-counting on all included mansions. To be sure for once and for ever? And the money-counting to remove all trolls from the high scores lists?


Counting money won't necessarily reveal all cheaters... only some. Because the total gold count in a mansion may be more than is actually possible to get, if you can take one fork or another, but not both. But it WILL reveal if someone *obviously* cheats by having a score that is clearly beyond everything in the mansion. :-)

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