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Message started by SandyBean on 19.07.2007 at 05:09:22

Title: Doldrum Dungeon, dying in room 17500
Post by SandyBean on 19.07.2007 at 05:09:22
Hi All,

I desperately need some help in Doldrum Dungeon after the 3 (or 4th) save pedestal, depending on which side of the save pedestals you go to first.  On the left side of the save pedestals is a huge maze of doors, jumps, gates and levers.  I have gotten the two purple keys, blue and green key, and have made it all the way up to room #17500 after using the green key.

My problem in this room is that once I pull the levers and get up into the top right area of the screen, jump thru the zappers, and pull the two levers and step on the tile that changes the bricks to gold, if Jack dies on the way back thru this difficult zapper (which he always has so far), Jack goes back to the entry point (mid left screen) with the levers returning to their original position, and there is no way to continue, or reset them, the only option is to start all over again from the save pedestal (a long ways away !!!) [smiley=cry.gif] [smiley=cry.gif] [smiley=cry.gif]

Help !!! What do I do???  Am I doing something wrong??? [smiley=undecided.gif]
thanks all, and take care,


BTW; I love the rooms to the right of the two save pedestals, in that you can choose to do whichever rooms you please in any order,  to get all the red keys, and some of the are doozies !!!

Sandybean, a lost one here, and in Church too (Still awaiting a wee bit o help there)

Title: Re: Doldrum Dungeon, dying in room 17500
Post by rose on 19.07.2007 at 13:40:05
Hi SandyBean!

I wish I could help you with this but I have never come that far in the mansion.

Title: Re: Doldrum Dungeon, dying in room 17500
Post by brell on 26.07.2007 at 10:22:33

SandyBean wrote on 19.07.2007 at 05:09:22:
My problem in this room is that once I pull the levers and get up into the top right area of the screen, jump thru the zappers, and pull the two levers and step on the tile that changes the bricks to gold, if Jack dies on the way back thru this difficult zapper (which he always has so far), Jack goes back to the entry point (mid left screen) with the levers returning to their original position, and there is no way to continue, or reset them, the only option is to start all over again from the save pedestal (a long ways away !!!) [smiley=cry.gif] [smiley=cry.gif] [smiley=cry.gif]


The gold/silver maze in DD is IMO the best g/s maze ever ... except from this problem you describe.  As far as I have tried you must restart from the save pedestal if you get zapped up there.  Something the author should check.

Title: Re: Doldrum Dungeon, dying in room 17500
Post by aquaMat on 26.07.2007 at 19:15:31

SandyBean wrote on 19.07.2007 at 05:09:22:
My problem in this room is that once I pull the levers and get up into the top right area of the screen, jump thru the zappers, and pull the two levers and step on the tile that changes the bricks to gold, if Jack dies on the way back thru this difficult zapper (which he always has so far), Jack goes back to the entry point (mid left screen) with the levers returning to their original position, and there is no way to continue, or reset them, the only option is to start all over again from the save pedestal (a long ways away !!!) [smiley=cry.gif] [smiley=cry.gif] [smiley=cry.gif]



That sounds very much like the problem I encountered in the gold/silver maze in Castle Doom (Hard) which I had reported a couple of days ago elsewhere (in: Included Mansions / "Jack-stucks in original mansions")!!!  I have also experienced the same problem in other mansions before and I feel it is one of the main dangers / issues when creating gold/silver puzzles / mazes..... I tend to call it the "gold/silver reborn bug"   ;)

Title: Re: Doldrum Dungeon, dying in room 17500
Post by SandyBean on 26.07.2007 at 23:54:47
Hi Brell and Aquamat,

Thanks for letting me know it's not a player error, except for the fact that me and Jack can't make back across that darned Zapper run !

Maybe I should let the designer know, or just keep trying again, it just takes such effort to get back up there, I have lots of lives, but nothin to do !!!

And you are right Brell, it is an excellent maze, not too hard, but definately challenging. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Thanks for the help, [smiley=dankk2.gif]

Sandybean, (no longer lost, but now on a mission!)

Title: Re: Doldrum Dungeon, dying in room 17500
Post by brell on 27.07.2007 at 00:06:49
DD is by Maniac and he hasn't been around since 11.3.

If you want to contact him try e-mail instead of PM.

Title: Re: Doldrum Dungeon, dying in room 17500
Post by Olle the Greatest on 21.09.2008 at 04:38:24
I just encountered the very same problem as SandyBean, just wondering if anyone did get in contact with the author? I hate to restart after having gone through all of that maze :s

Title: Re: Doldrum Dungeon, dying in room 17500
Post by Lara on 21.09.2008 at 06:07:20
Hi,

I have got to room 17500 after coming into this room from the right. I am stuck in the top right corner and don't seem to be able to go anywhere except back the way I came. :(

I don't what SandyBean is talking about and I've still only used one save point.

Help?? Suggestions?

Thanks!




Title: Re: Doldrum Dungeon, dying in room 17500
Post by Lara on 25.09.2008 at 03:51:48
BUMP

Title: Re: Doldrum Dungeon, dying in room 17500
Post by Olle the Greatest on 25.09.2008 at 05:03:08
you're not supposed to go anywhere but back to the right. From that room [17501 it should be called] you can get to the next save. Bungy without a rubber band :)

Title: Re: Doldrum Dungeon, dying in room 17500
Post by Olle the Greatest on 25.09.2008 at 05:06:02

Olle the Greatest wrote on 21.09.2008 at 04:38:24:
I just encountered the very same problem as SandyBean, just wondering if anyone did get in contact with the author? I hate to restart after having gone through all of that maze :s

Strange enough, the last time I played it [and finally finished it] I died and was reborn, but I still could solve the whole thing... don't know what I did differently though, perhaps at some place I did a top ladder jump as a shortcut and that might have made a difference...

Title: Re: Doldrum Dungeon, dying in room 17500
Post by SandyBean on 25.09.2008 at 08:56:00
Hi Lara and Ollie,

Sorry, did not notice your earlier posts till today.

I never did hear back from the author, just kept at it from the 3rd save point and finally managed to stay alive after the Zappers, and if memory serves me, my Jack exited through the upper Left.

I know it's not a help/hint, but for me it was just 'stick-to-it-ness' that got us through.   :-/

Take care,

SandyBean [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]

Title: Re: Doldrum Dungeon, dying in room 17500
Post by Lara on 27.09.2008 at 07:24:16

Olle the Greatest wrote on 25.09.2008 at 05:03:08:
you're not supposed to go anywhere but back to the right. From that room [17501 it should be called] you can get to the next save. Bungy without a rubber band :)

Do you mean bungy? Or jump? I've seen the room below 17501, but that doesn't have anything interesting in it.

Title: Re: Doldrum Dungeon, dying in room 17500
Post by Olle the Greatest on 27.09.2008 at 16:17:20
bungyjumps are usually longer that that... ahh perhaps they're spelled bungee in english :D

Title: Re: Doldrum Dungeon, dying in room 17500
Post by Lara on 27.09.2008 at 20:40:14
If I fall down/drop off the ladder in that room I just die.  :'(

Title: Re: Doldrum Dungeon, dying in room 17500
Post by Olle the Greatest on 27.09.2008 at 20:56:02
don't just fall then... Jack has the ability to move sideways while falling :)

Title: Re: Doldrum Dungeon, dying in room 17500
Post by Lara on 27.09.2008 at 21:27:23

Olle the Greatest wrote on 27.09.2008 at 20:56:02:
don't just fall then... Jack has the ability to move sideways while falling :)

I'll try it. Problem is, it takes so long to get to that spot, that by the time you get there you have no lives. :(

More hard work time.... :D

Title: Re: Doldrum Dungeon, dying in room 17500
Post by JimRCGMO on 02.08.2016 at 07:10:54
Thank Heaven I came back and finally located this forum! I had been stuck in the roadblock that is Rooms 17500/17501, and even after coming here, it took me three Jacks to *safely* reach the Save pedestal... :o

Vern, hope things are going great for you in the (not-so, by now) job! I figure that you have helped me keep my mind active and occupied (I don't care what anyone says about "computer games are a waste of time...blah, blah, blah...").

Kudos, Vern, for writing MM1, 2, & HD, and Maniac for a mansion that is at times frustratingly challenging, and still fun to play! And thanks to all the MM players out there, whether players who posted here, or designers who came up with all these maddening rooms, levers, zappers, hidden treasures and rooms! [smiley=grin.gif]

JimRCGMO

Title: Re: Doldrum Dungeon, dying in room 17500
Post by josephine on 05.08.2016 at 21:41:19
Hi Jim! There are plenty of people who still play this GREAT game. The forums aren't so active anymore, but many (like myself) do drop by regularly. And occasionally players get stuck, so it's fun to help them out. (I keep my old computer around to play MM. And the cat sleeps on it. But mostly for MM ;D )

And as far as games being a waste of time- PISH! Problem solving skills and fun are never a waste of time!

Title: Re: Doldrum Dungeon, dying in room 17500
Post by rose on 05.08.2016 at 23:55:41
Hi! I get notifications when someone has posted here. I can't help you with Doldrum Dungeon as I never been able to play it through. It is to difficult. >:(

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