How do you make invisible bricks?   :-?Someone please tell me. :)

It's not that the bricks are invisible, it's just that they're being covered up by tiles placed in layer five or six. I don't think, however, that there is a solid black tile to use, in which case Brell used a custom tile in TPI. If your rooms have backgrounds, though, then you can just use whatever background tile you were drawing with.

You also probably will have to erase the fringe. This is the 3D effect placed automatically by the editor in layers 1-3. To erase it, switch to those layers and click away.

Hope that helps.

Thanks, ryos.  :) That works well enough.   ;D

There is actually a solid black brick you can cover things up in laver 5...
Those dungeon doors (with the brick backgrounds) have some black tiles between the door peices. (located about 2/3rds of the way down that bar for the bricks/backgrounds. If you don't get what I'm saying, I'll get you a pic.

I understand thanks, sam. ;D

Speaking of erasing the fridge, don't forget if you want to get rid of layer 6 3d fringe you can uncheck the "draw layer 6 fringe" in the special menu. Then select the nothing-ness tile (aka the erasing black tile) and click away the fridge... it's also easier to uncheck it before you start drawing layer 6 stuff.

May not be related to subject... but anyways...

oh yeah, to make a good secret that has a good hint, (that's like for example a secret room through a grey brick wall) and you have no layer 6 cracked brick with a fridge to give a hint, just draw a not cracked layer 6 wall to the secret without a fringe! Makes the players to look out for that, because usually they look out for cracked walls...

EDIT: Fridge, fringe... whats the differance?  ::)

"Fringe", Wingy. Not "fridge." "Fringe". ;)

Psychotronic wrote on 03.10.2007 at 15:02:39:

"Fringe", Wingy. Not "fridge." "Fringe". ;)

hehe yes fridge the new art of an editor.  ::)

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EDIT: Fridge, fringe... whats the differance?

Some fridges have fringes, some even have midges; but ALL have hinges.

Anyways... back to subject...

Hey, I remember in one of AquaMat's mansions... DoD...? (Discoth of doom... is that the right spelling?  :-?)

That Aquamat put a sign... saying repeat the magic words and you can float... how did you do that, Aquamat??

I've been designing away before and somehow (I forget how) the ground let Jack float, or levitate, as it says in Aquamat's mansion. I had to remake the room to get rid of this, this... bug.
:o

Aah.... the magic spell !!

Thought that was long forgotten...BTW, it was in The Mansion Family: Mind Mines....  I know I promised back then I'll share the secret.... now considerable time has passed, so I might be able to do so:

For that trick I have NOT USED any invisible bricks at all (and, unfortunately, I'm afraid building invisible bricks is not possible), but I created the impression of walking in air with the use of a layer trick.

I'm not even sure if I remember the correct order of proceedings, as I worked pretty long on that...trying out different things until it really worked..... but I achieved the effect by first adding bricks in a layer other than layer 4 and later removing them again.
The setting of the "fringe" is essential.

BTW..... some of you might remember that (shortly after the release of TMF 1) I announced The Mansion Family 2, which I was building already back in springtime. TMF 2 featured the then-novelty SNOW and ICE and there I also wanted to introduce another "magic spell" trick called "The Northern Lights" (which, incidentially was also the subtitle of TMF 2).

Unfortunately I never finished building TMF 2, as I was never completely satisfied with the snow landscapes (for which I got a little help from JoeB., who lshortly afterwards introduced snow in one of his mansions). So I abandoned the project (for now).
(It's a shame...as I'd really would have liked to show you the "Northern Lights" trick...  :(   8-))

You might be interested to hear that currently I'm working on TMF 3, working title "Parachutes"....which will also introduce an innovation. TMF 3 is already close to being finished, so it will definitely be released before TMF 2 !!

aquaMat wrote on 04.10.2007 at 23:14:21:

I'm not even sure if I remember the correct order of proceedings, as I worked pretty long on that...trying out different things until it really worked..... but I achieved the effect by first adding bricks in a layer other than layer 4 and later removing them again. The setting of the "fringe" is essential.

Do you remember whether you used a lower or a higher level bricks than L4?


aquaMat wrote on 04.10.2007 at 23:14:21:

You might be interested to hear that currently I'm working on TMF 3, working title "Parachutes"....which will also introduce an innovation. TMF 3 is already close to being finished, so it will definitely be released before TMF 2 !!

Well, the Star Wars series was 4-5-6-1-2-3 so you are excused  ;)

aquaMat wrote on 04.10.2007 at 23:14:21:

I'm not even sure if I remember the correct order of proceedings, as I worked pretty long on that...trying out different things until it really worked..... but I achieved the effect by first adding bricks in a layer other than layer 4 and later removing them again. The setting of the "fringe" is essential.

Did you remove some of the fringe from layer 3 or something to get rid of the generated fringe or something by using the black nothing-ness tile on the fringe? Was that a part of the process?

I actually do remember this (alas....I'm givin' it all away.. :D  ;)):

I first added a second floor in layer 6 using "Fringe ON". Later I removed that floor, but somehow (that's the part I really can't remember exactly anymore) removed it with "Fringe OFF", theoretically leaving the fringe in the picture. Of course you CAN'T see "fringe only".
Due to some bug in the software, you now step onto that floor, even if it is already gone....giving the impression you were walking on air.

After I stumbled upon this effect / bug accidentally a while earlier (where I had removed a single "layer-6 + fringe" brick), I tried to recreate it in TMF for an entire floor.

BTW, I also experimented with layer-3, but that led to nothing.

While telling all the secrets of your private life ;D, please tell us for once and for ever why carots are more orange than oranges! ;)

aquaMat wrote on 06.10.2007 at 15:44:06:

...Of course you CAN'T see "fringe only".

Oh really?

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Freddy wrote on 07.10.2007 at 04:18:02:

While telling all the secrets of your private life ;D, please tell us for once and for ever why carots are more orange than oranges! ;)

If I only knew, Freddy, if I only knew......    :-/

Anthony wrote on 07.10.2007 at 08:29:39:

aquaMat wrote on 06.10.2007 at 15:44:06: ...Of course you CAN'T see "fringe only". Oh really?

Yes, I know.... that this sometimes happens... but it is not "meant to (be used)" officially, and - at least durring my experiments - didn't always look like that. Sometimes you remove the brick front, but not the fringe (for whatever reasons) but still the fringe is gone afterwards.  And that's the way it should be...e.g. in layer 4 it has to be always like that. You remove the brick (front is selected only), and the software "knows" it also has to remove the resp. fringe.

aquaMat wrote on 07.10.2007 at 23:52:28:

Freddy wrote on 07.10.2007 at 04:18:02: While telling all the secrets of your private life ;D, please tell us for once and for ever why carots are more orange than oranges! ;) If I only knew, Freddy, if I only knew......    :-/

Maybe because it has more beta-carotene?

Beta-CAROTene that is not in carots ... ;D
Or isn't this to subject anymore?  :-? Better: :-X

i dont undertstand this fringe or so...  :-[

I tried making AquaMat's style invisible bricks, but after I erase the layer six I see the layer four bricks again.  :-/ :-?  Someone please post an example once they figure out how to make the invisible bricks.  :) In the mean time I will continue to experiment.