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Message started by MTGA on 12.09.2010 at 02:49:58

Title: Dr. Demented's Den Hard
Post by MTGA on 12.09.2010 at 02:49:58
having two problems:


Save pedestals behind blue doors

  Jack has spotted several save pedestals behind blue doors along with a blue and green key but can't for the life of him (literally...) find a single blue key to open even one of these.
   is there a blue key to be had anywhere in the first area (where you go down into 16096 and then to the left) or anywhere else in the mansion?


Rooms 15707/15097 area

after coming through the two red doors in 15704 with no more keys left, Jack is now stuck in the silver/gold puzzle area.
  the trick seems to be getting a purple key to open one of the doors in order to proceed but that doesn't seem to be possible. 
  any suggestions/hints on how to proceed?

Title: Re: Dr. Demented's Den Hard
Post by Semi-Native on 12.09.2010 at 03:08:00
The blue doors come later, you can't open them until you're nearing the end of the game.

The silver/gold block puzzle is very hard the first time through. Read the signs about the lever handle colors, that will help you solve the puzzle. You're not stuck, just keep exploring.

Good luck!

Title: Re: Dr. Demented's Den Hard
Post by MTGA on 12.09.2010 at 08:34:12
many thanks for the encouragement - it was a big help.  Jack had great fun working through the next sections and finally  collected the long-sought after blue key, 4 green & blue keys.  then.......

Jack ended up in 15910 with only a blue key.  rats.
after searching high and low there is no sign of another green key. 

any additional words of wisdom?


Title: Re: Dr. Demented's Den Hard
Post by Rob Seegel on 12.09.2010 at 08:54:33
Hmmm... you should have encountered 5 rooms that had a green and blue key in them in your travels to get to this point - one in each area.  The only one I can think of that's possible to bypass without seeing it is in the first area, not far from the troll outpost.

Are you sure you've checked them all? If it's the one in the first area, there's a few different approaches that will take you there.

You're almost there... so close. Of course, once you get there, there's still a little left to do, but that would be telling ;-)

Title: Re: Dr. Demented's Den Hard
Post by MTGA on 12.09.2010 at 09:24:07
duh!  you were right - Jack missed one of the blue save rooms.

onwards!

Title: Re: Dr. Demented's Den Hard
Post by SandyBean on 09.11.2010 at 04:50:37
WoW !!!

I did all the included mansions at 'normal', and have now gone back to do them all at 'hard'.

Was I ever delighted and astonished to find DDD almost like an entirely New Mansion !!!

It's huge...and tough, and trying at times, and Jack and I had tonnes of fun at the end with the wonderful "Key Treasure Room".  What a marvel, and such great work, I really enjoyed having to figure out that last puzzle, and it looks really cool on the map, too !

Kudo's, and totally well done !  [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]

Thanks so much,

SandyBean  [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]
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Title: Re: Dr. Demented's Den Hard
Post by Rob Seegel on 09.11.2010 at 10:32:28

SandyBean wrote on 09.11.2010 at 04:50:37:
Thanks so much,

SandyBean  [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]


On behalf of myself and the awesome testers who played through its rooms many, many times... You're welcome!  I'm glad you enjoyed it. Your post really made my day - thanks.

Much credit to Vern for allowing me to make "a few changes" after I was critical about it being too close to the Normal version during testing. He was really supportive despite the fact that I got a little carried away with it. I don't think either of us really expected it to grow like it did.  The final treasure room maze was something I was particularly happy with.

You'll find that a few of the HARD mansions differ quite a bit from their NORMAL versions... this was a lot of extra work but totally worthwhile IMO.  I was happy to be a part of it.

:)

Rob

Title: Re: Dr. Demented's Den Hard
Post by arevn on 14.11.2010 at 13:46:39
Dr. Demented Den's Hard should be called "The Game That Never Ends"! It alone is worth the cost of the game! It's funny; I hated the 'hard' versions of the first game and didn't get through a single one of them, but I've made it through all the ones in this game. DDDH was my favourite of all the levels at all difficulties. It was challenging, but all the save pedestals kept it from getting too frustrating. I finished with 91% secrets. Thanks for giving us such good value for our money!

Arevn

Title: Re: Dr. Demented's Den Hard
Post by Rob Seegel on 15.11.2010 at 03:14:25

arevn wrote on 14.11.2010 at 13:46:39:
Dr. Demented Den's Hard should be called "The Game That Never Ends"! It alone is worth the cost of the game! It's funny; I hated the 'hard' versions of the first game and didn't get through a single one of them, but I've made it through all the ones in this game. DDDH was my favourite of all the levels at all difficulties. It was challenging, but all the save pedestals kept it from getting too frustrating. I finished with 91% secrets. Thanks for giving us such good value for our money!


You're welcome, and thanks for the praise! I had fun working on it. It was important to me to keep it recognizable enough to the other levels, but at the same time try and create a new experience that would keep things fresh even if you had played the Easy and Normal versions. I also tried to add some new things I hadn't seen in some of the other mansions.

I'm pretty happy with how it turned out, though I was a little concerned about the length and the time it takes to complete. I definitely didn't do myself or the testers any favors there and it was at least part of the reason for all the save points. There's a few rooms I'd do differently if I had to do it again, but I think that's probably always going to be the case.








Title: Re: Dr. Demented's Den Hard
Post by josephine on 19.11.2010 at 18:06:34


What a great mansion! But boy is Jack tired  ;D
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