brell wrote on 13.05.2023 at 21:05:41:

There are a lot of ways to make changes for the green keys/doors issue of TZ2. But I like to keep as much from the puzzle as possible, but on the other hand want to make play fairly. As always.

I assume that you made a save in the lower left corner from room 17501. If you restart there and would know (I have a sign in mind) that there are only two green keys for the three green doors would that be enough?

The essence of this puzzle is that when you open the wrong door you are missing a lot of money, besides an extra save pedestal. But the sign must realize that you KNOW that for sure.

Please, give a yell. Before I change anything.

Freddy wrote on 13.05.2023 at 23:43:12:


Yes, I made the save.  And yes, a sign would help, but it must not give too much away.  There is nothing (visible) behind the lowest green door.  Perhaps this puzzle is OK as it is.  The player must decide where to use the green key and a wrong decision does not lead to a JS.  Also, the last save is not far away.

So, as an afterthought, maybe no changes are needed.

brell wrote on 14.05.2023 at 17:44:37:

I have the feeling that if I move the info into that room I spoil the novelty and make it too easy. Therefor I did clarify the existing sign. See pic. What do you think? Help enough but not too much?

Hmm ... I had something like a writer's block. It took some time before I realized why I had no inspiration at all for continuing the design of BNW.

The cause was TZ2. I am not happy with it. The original idea was to make a second transit zone with the look of a pantry where the five colours lead to different prizes: the first backpack, maps, shields, save pedestal(s), money and signs with important information. In my opinion it became a mess.

There is no good way to avoid money in four of the five directions.
It is not easy at all to offer multiple save points while avoiding backtracking to them.
Giving maps for (small) areas log in advance? Really?
Shields that offer problems in the backpack ...

Conclusion: no pantry. It think that it would be better to create an information zone with good maps and signs.

Let me first tell what I did like in the TZ2 like it is now.
1. The look of room 17701 with the bright moonshine nicely positioned on that brown background. Together with the 'spiral' ladder and the smoothly appearing .
2. The windy puzzle with the alter ego in room 17902.
3. The windmill park from room 17903 with 'a new kind of way to a secret' (?) that finally leads to .

Besides the pantry issue my major doubts about TZ2 are:
- that the windmill park is a forced way through, not a sideway;
- the revealing of some keys and other things, because in some cases it is far too unclear that there will be T's;
- the look of the rooms 17501, 18101 and 18102.

I am going to start with the redesigning of the dark room and see how it goes on.

QUESTION
In the windmill park, which way down did you find first?

A necessary update


In what previously was called TZ2 only one room didn't change. Three of the eight are now dark rooms (for a while).

In the shown picture you will see that in room 17501 only three things didn't change: the ladders in and out and, much more important, the save pedestal so save 8 is still in use.

The mansion has now $ 31.000 to gain.

QUESTIONS

1. Please have a brief look in the first rooms of the purple section because the information on the (now) two signs did change and then continue till you could get the second yellow key of the mansion in the room with the skeletons. I am interested in your opinion.

2. In TZ1 I added a grey door. Together with the slight changes in the purple area it is meant as 'training' before the start issue in the blue area. Does it work?

3. I spend the whole weekend at rearranging the eight rooms starting with 17501. Do you think that this area still is a 'transit zones'? (I don't.)

4. Any remarks about this small area?