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Re: Helter Skullter
Reply #10 - 08.03.2007 at 04:58:12

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hel·ter-skel·ter (hĕl'tər-skĕl'tər) pronunciation
adv.
1. In disorderly haste; confusedly; pell-mell.
2. Haphazardly.
adj.
1. Carelessly hurried and confused.
2. Haphazard.
n.
Turmoil; confusion.

From Wikipedia
Helter Skelter" is a song written by Paul McCartney[1][2] (credited to Lennon/McCartney) for The Beatles album, The White Album. An early example of heavy metal music, McCartney deliberately set out to make as loud and dirty a sound as possible. Like other songs on the The White Album, Charles Manson misinterpreted the song as supporting his delusional prophecies regarding a race war.

aquaMat also made a very good point about HS (Helter Skullter) fitting into the "Mansion Family", a connotation to the MANSON FAMILY let by the world famous (or at least US famous) whack job Charles Manson.

HS is merely an exercise in confusing the mind with trying to find stability (a platform to land on) in a background of movement while trying to avoid MONSTERS most of whom have a skeleton skull. HS is out in the Free Up/Down section of the forums.

Hope this helps,

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sherryl199 Explorer Offline Posts: 227 Wilmington, NC USA Gender:	Re: Helter Skullter Reply #11 - 08.03.2007 at 10:10:55 Charles Mansion and 'family' were infamous rather than famous for hideous, heinous crimes - nothing there to want to be tied to in any way.
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Re: Helter Skullter
Reply #12 - 08.03.2007 at 11:20:29

Never heard of Charles MANSION although I'm sure there's one or two of them. See there, Freud just slipped past your conscious will and associated mansion with manson.
Embarrassed

How many fans of Beach Boys music realize Charlie lived with Brian Wilson and actually influenced one or two tunes. I still love to tool down the road in my SRT4 listening to 409, Little Deuce Coupe, Help Me Rhonda, Good Vibrations, Sloop John B, etc, etc.

You say potato, I say potahto, a rose by any other name. Charles was still a world class wacko. Using skullter instead of skelter also free's up the tight definition related to Charlie boy. Once again, a matter of choice as has been pointed out. If the name of a mansion puts you off, don't play it.

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Re: Helter Skullter
Reply #13 - 09.03.2007 at 00:01:19

You're absolute right Joe.... except I have to correct one tiny bit... it was Dennis, not Brian Wilson who - for a short while - was friends with (a pre-murder) Charlie Manson.

And the Beach Boys even nicked Manson's song "Cease To Exist" and recorded it, albeit with a different title.

And before some over-politically-correct people get upset: My calling my new mansions "The Mansion Family" was of course mainly based on that funny word-play....and does in no way whatsoever express or indicate that I think the Tate & LaBianca murders were "cool" or something. BUT: Manson as a figure and the whole case is indeed an interesting part of history..... and you can accuse Manson of many things, but NOT of having no charisma or being boring.

I remember (in the early 80s) when I read Ed Sanders' interesting book "The Family"...still the best book on the subject, BTW... that I was impressed..... but not by the man, let alone his crimes.... but the whole story, with all its interesting connotations, the Beatles and Beach Boys tie-ins, Polanski, Tate..... Bobby Beausoleil, Kenneth Anger etc. etc.

Boring it ain't.

Now back to Midnight Mansion.

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Toybox Treasure Hunter Offline Posts: 561 Kiel, Germany	Re: Helter Skullter Reply #14 - 09.03.2007 at 00:09:26 I thought it was a tribute to the Addams family
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Re: Helter Skullter
Reply #15 - 09.03.2007 at 03:35:22

aquaMat,

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it was Dennis, not Brian Wilson who

I stand corrected. I knew it was one of them (the Beach Boys). The Mansion (NOT MANSON) Family never even entered my mind until you brought it up. I was just thinking of Paul's words (FYI, we have the same birthday and are bass guitarists!):

When I get to the bottom
I go back to the top of the stack
And I stop and catch a ride to the bottom
And turn around and see you, yah, yah, yah

Or something to that effect, I apologize if I didn't get it EXACTLY but the thought of going up and down in a chaotic way is sort of what you need to do in HS. AND I also issue the same disclaimer about any MANSON tie-in. Just a game to design, play and share.

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Psychotronic Explorer Offline Posts: 174 Alaska Gender:	Re: Helter Skullter Reply #16 - 09.03.2007 at 03:46:57 Can I just remind everybody that Helter Skelter is generally still more recognizable as a Beatles song than anything else, regardless of any nasty side business? The name of the mansion should remind you all of happy tunes and good times! Happy tunes and good times!
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brell YaBB Administrator Offline Posts: 1784 Moita, Portugal Gender:	Re: Helter Skullter Reply #17 - 14.03.2007 at 04:23:34 HelterSkullter has now been put on the final mansions list. Both the hard, original version and a somewhat easier version with one save point.
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brell YaBB Administrator Offline Posts: 1784 Moita, Portugal Gender:	Re: Helter Skullter Reply #18 - 14.03.2007 at 05:38:20 OK. finished HS easy but only with 66% secrets Must finish the hars version some day - if I only could learn not to play too quick
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joeb Adventurer Offline Posts: 360	Re: Helter Skullter Reply #19 - 14.03.2007 at 07:44:39 Thanks brell! Hey does Freddy do an "official" announcement like with the other posted mansions? Joe B
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