brell wrote on 21.02.2023 at 21:50:32:

May I reformulate your question: are there complications when changing blocks to silver without immediate continuing to the room above and using the rainbow key? I don't think/hope so.
This is what I am going to do. In TZ1 I previously used the left saving point after the purple area (mark = $ 3.000) and the right saving point as second after full cleaning TZ1 and without entering any blue room. I will restart from that 2nd save, go first of all to room 16703 where I only change the blocks into silver. Then I will leave TZ1 at the bottom left of the middle save (to open the blue door in room 17101).
Future will tell what is going to happen.


Meanwhile I will try to find answers on your questions. And ideas to fix mistakes! 

Betaversion 012 is ready and enclosed.

Take a warm bath and stretch your shoulders, neck and fingers!

Mistakes got fixed.
Backgrounds, money, shields, maps (with information), saves, rooms and secrets were moved, removed or added.
Even the temporary express road to the exit got a little bit of polish.


Officially there are now 76 rooms. That means including the express road.
And $ 19.000 to be found.

All beta testers are supposed to read all the signs because the text could have changed.

Now just a brief word about room 16503 to show how designing sometimes gets 'progress'. In the lower left corner a Jack stuck was reported. Before the horizontal zapper beam was there, Jack was able to fall/jump to the bottom floor with the grey door (still) closed.

While I fixed that with the beam I noticed that there was a problem in the upper left corner. When Jack arrived at the gold coin with the grey door at the right still closed, progress was difficult. Jack had to do a difficult jump down to the lever while both the ghost platform and the eye ball are away. I did change that by making the gap and the ghost platform wider. This solution is also interesting because, by accident, progress is pretty uncommon. Jumping to the right is impossible, so the use of the platform is needed. But that is only possible on a moment that the platform appears and the eye ball is still somewhere below. Once Jack is at the right he has an easily drop down to do.

Room finished? Not at all. The image shows a before not detected half Jack stuck. Jack, probably due to the weight of the five shields in his backpack, stumbled into the gap and within seconds lost three of his shields to an eye ball and two skull spiders. And no way out because of the zapper beams.

I did fix it in the same way as the gap in the lower left corner.

I do hope you still enjoy testing this mansion and I am looking forward to any kind of remarks or questions.

For my own testing comfort I made two saves in transport zone 1. The first one I made, and I assume you did the same, at the left immediately after coming down from the purple area and before picking up anything. That gives exactly $ 3.000.

Because, and only because of the testings, I made a second save at the right pedestal after picking up the three maps, some shields and all money (new total is exactly $ 4.000). Try to do that as well. It is one single limited effort from save 1 to 2. Do not forget the moneybag above and the gold coin below that second save point. But do not enter any room outside the transit zone 1, not even briefly, e.g. to be able to check the hopefully proper working of the maps.

From there you have a perfect base to start the discovery of the blue area wherever you want to. So, please, do it this way and replace your previous second save. You will 'see' much more 'things' when you frequently change your starting gate and will also have more playing fun. But, as already mentioned for TZ1, you will also be in better circumstances to check all maps in the blue area. Do they give too much or too less information. While the maps in TZ1 showed gold/silver info, they now show coulored doors. Or the positions of the extra saving points, shields ...

My choice to use the right pedestal for my second save wasn't at random. My last efforts in TZ1 were skipping that save point and leaving money bag and coin where there were (to avoid the save question interruptions), cleaning up the far left lower part of TZ1 and only in the return to the right I completed the last $ 150 and saved. Before that, I already knew that I wanted to be at the right because thanks to you 'all beta testers' I left TZ1 at the gate to room 16703 where I changed gold into silver and could continue with opening the red door in room 16704 which room was very nearby. And third reason was that I knew that after visiting the half of the blue area, the middle saving pedestal was going to be on my way.

But don't let my choice interfere with where you like to continue.

Are you talking about changing from buttons to levers?  But what if Jack forgets to pull the lever?  Not sure it is a good idea.

Thanks for the remarks, . I will definitely have a look to all issues.

Right now, without MM nearby only this.

The mansion is still in a beta phase. So your mindset is finding 'mistakes'. And that is why you assume that the moving platform in room 17605 might be meaningless or a not removed leftover.

The situation with the not taken eyeball wan't meant to be but I didn't correct that because it had two interesting consequences. Using the platform needs a little bit of thinking and getting the most left coin also.

A revisit?