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Re: MM2 - Brave New World
Reply #320 - 30.01.2024 at 18:05:13

Freddy wrote on 30.01.2024 at 15:49:21:

Q: What is your opinion about falling bags that, after landing, are invisable? E.g. there are 3 in the first brown room and my Jack sometimes forgets to pick them up.

That is OK if the player clearly sees them falling.

Q: For my checking of hidden gold, can you give the short list of your exact results at the checkpoints? (That is because I didn't clearly understand understand what you meant with missing a lot of gold, while you were at the exit door with only $ 300 missing, maybe including the bag-in-the lava. That should leave only $ 100 in the whole mansion.) Please help me. [/quote]

I don't understand. I gave you my exact results before:

After replaying:

1st checkpoint: Secrets and gold correct.

(16899: If you miss the $200 money bag you won’t get a second chance.)

17501: I have 14475 but max score is 14550.

I have all secrets. The difference is 75 but I missed the $200 money bag in 16899

18098: I have all secrets. ! have $19075 but max is 19150. Same difference as in 17501 The problem is in the second section.

17496: I have all secrets. Max gold is 24500 but I have 24225. Difference is now 275. Missing 200 in the grey section

16893: I have all secrets. I have $28875 but the max is $29300. Difference is now 425. Missed 150 in the green section.

16093: Have all secrets and $33750 but max is $34050. Difference is now 300!!!!!?????

15896: I have all secrets. But only $38275 but ssign says max is $38650. Difference is now 375.
But:
Should Jack first finish 15897 and 16097 before going to the checkpoint?

Finished with all secrets and $64325. Should be 64625. Missing 300. Part of which is the $200 moneybag in 16899

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brell YaBB Administrator Offline Posts: 1788 Moita, Portugal Gender:	Re: MM2 - Brave New World Reply #321 - 30.01.2024 at 18:09:02 I'll try to replay from the first checkpoint and see what happens if I grab the moneybag in 16899
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Freddy YaBB Administrator Offline Posts: 1757 Brugge, Belgium Gender:	Re: MM2 - Brave New World Reply #322 - 30.01.2024 at 18:27:35 Although you said exactly the same, with delay I understand that each announcement of missing dollars were extra. And then you are indeed missing a lot. The last 300 missing dollars may be the money bags that I forgot more than once in the first brown (pop-up) room.
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Re: MM2 - Brave New World
Reply #323 - 30.01.2024 at 20:23:41

No, this is not cumulative. This is total missing per each checkpoint. In all instances I have all secrets.

17501: I have 14475 but max score is 14550. Difference total is 75 but I missed the $200 money bag in 16899. How can the difference be only $75 when I missed $200?

18098: I have $19075 but max is 19150. Difference is still $75, the same difference as in 17501 The problem is in the second section.

17496: Max gold is 24500 but I have 24225. Total difference is now 275. Missing 200 in the grey section

16893: I have $28875 but the max is $29300. Total difference is now 425. Missed 150 in the green section.

16093: Have $33750 but max is $34050. Total difference is now 300!!!!!?????

15896: I have $38275 but sign says max is $38650. Total difference is now 375.
But:
Should Jack first finish 15897 and 16097 before going to the checkpoint?

Finished with all secrets and $64325. Should be 64625. Total missing 300. Part of which is the $200 moneybag in 16899

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Re: MM2 - Brave New World
Reply #324 - 30.01.2024 at 21:50:46

Checkpoint in 17501: All secrets and $14550. Cp says $14550. There is at least one completely hidden coin which IMO deserves a secret.

Checkpoint 3 in 18098: All secrets and gold
Cp 4 in 17496: All secrets and gold
Cp 5 in 16893: All secrets and gold
Cp 6 in 16093: All secrets and gold
Cp 7 in 15896: All secrets and gold - but why should the player check this sign before opening any door in 15897?
Last cp: Missing $25

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Re: MM2 - Brave New World
Reply #325 - 05.02.2024 at 22:48:38

Good afternoon!

Results are much better right now!

The CP in room 15896 indeed looks very bad. Thanks for reporting. This sign will be moved to the room where part 1 of the brown area ends. The text has to be changed as well.

I found a full hidden silver coin behind a broken vase in the blue section that starts with the very first blue key. Are you talking about the same? This one will be fixed.

Meanwile I started with the announced second round of the works. For obvious reasons with the first, the purple area. Or should it be called lila? That leads me to two more important questons.

Q for
semi-native
: No pressure at all, but is there any chance that you will be able to help me in the meaning of a second opinion?

Q for
brell
: There are two possibilities. I may continue the works on my own and in the end give you the mansion-ready-for-release as a present. Or, if you prefer that, I will send you in seperate parts, each area that feels finalzed. What do you like?

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Re: MM2 - Brave New World
Reply #326 - 06.02.2024 at 18:10:31

Freddy wrote on 05.02.2024 at 22:48:38:

I found a full hidden silver coin behind a broken vase in the blue section that starts with the very first blue key. Are you talking about the same? This one will be fixed.

Yes. At least it deserves a secret.

Freddy wrote on 05.02.2024 at 22:48:38:

Q for
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: There are two possibilities. I may continue the works on my own and in the end give you the mansion-ready-for-release as a present. Or, if you prefer that, I will send you in seperate parts, each area that feels finalzed. What do you like?

The second option

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Reply #327 - 10.02.2024 at 00:09:03

I wanted to improve things. That is why I also found an annoying mistake. Not a Jack-stuck or a half-Jack-stuck ... It is a kind of mortal-half-Jack-stuck.

Very early in the mansion (see pic 1) Jack arrives at the gap with the seven fast approaching scorpions. There is a reason for the number of scorpions (minimum 7). Jack started with 6 lives and so early in the mansion he couldn't gain enough money for extra lives. In this way I forced Jack to do a detour where he also was forced to pick up a purple key. That key is necessary for further progress somewhere halfway the purple area. An original one way. I thought. Till my Jack was in a bad mood and decided to offer 5 of his lives to the five fasted scorpions.

On pic 2 you see what happened. Jack was faster than the two slowliest scorpions and could climb down the ladder without the purple key. He really needs that key because it is the only one within reach to open that purple door. A Jack-stuck?

Well, no. Jack is in the poosibility to gain more than $ 2000 for two extra lives. One extra life is enough to go back to the shown room to offer two more lives to the scorpions in the gap and pick-up the purple key. Design problem solved?

Again, no! Although there are also a few shields, Jack may lose lives while gathering his dollars. Thus it is possible that he ends with 0 or 1 life left, not enough to eliminate the scorpions.

I am running away. There is work to do.
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Freddy YaBB Administrator Offline Posts: 1757 Brugge, Belgium Gender:	Re: MM2 - Brave New World Reply #328 - 10.02.2024 at 00:16:24 Freddy wrote on 10.02.2024 at 00:09:03: I am running away. There is work to do. I am not going to increase the speed of the slow scorpions or change the place or the number of the scorpions. The harmonica view of the scorpions is too beautiful.
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Re: MM2 - Brave New World
Reply #329 - 12.02.2024 at 00:03:21

With my next post I will add a zip for a small mansion. It is called BNW Purple and it has a lot of Ts but no save points or an exit door. The mansion ends at a check point.

To all beta testers, I ask you the most difficult MM-thing: try to play this mansion like you have no knowledge at all about what you will see or encounter. Take your time, read all signs and maps. I hope you like it.

And after you liked it Wink

you may send me all your remarks. In my language we have an expression that translated sounds like 'having the skin of an elephant' what means that you can't get hurt because you will not feel anything at all. So don't hesitate.

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